I have a friend who asked me to give him shots of steroids. I asked him what he want to take and he said that he wanted to take Deca-durabolin 100 and Sustanon 250. ( we also talked about taking "pang kontra" to make the cycle safer)
What i told him that we will be using 1 bottle of Sustanon 250 per week because he's a beginner. And 3 bottles of deca-durabolin per week (that's 300 mg)
I gave all the bottles and the needles to him at his store so that he can prepare the stuffs himself so that when i arrive at his store, the stuff is ready for injection.
The problem is he doubled the Sustanon making it 500 mg a week.
I told him that we're going to have a problem with his health so we must cut the dosage back but he didnt care because the steroids that he bought from me is very cheap. I told him that dont come or talk to me again and find someone else to enject the drugs on you.
After 10 weeks of not seeing him. He went to our office and saying that i should have listened to you, Because i'm having a liver problem now and I didnt take the ancillary drugs that you said to take during the cycle.
In just 10 weeks dude, he got his body but he also have a liver problem because he thought that it is better to overdose the drug so that you'll have quicker gains.
He told me that he'll be more careful the next time he'l use the drug again.
While I've never taken any GH, PH, or steroids (nor will I ever try em), this is such a typical case of uneducated purchase.
Like ANY drug, be it a simple paracetamol to steroids, there is a proper dosage. I'll take your word that you gave him proper instructions and precautions and he didn't heed the advice. That's just pure ignorance from the user.
Liver problems are quite serious and hard to cure... Good luck to him... If he does have a "next time" with his roid stack.
quote: Originally posted by: theveed "GH is different from steroids. Steroids are testosterone, GH are hormones. Side effects are similar, just more severe with steroids. They're no longer legal in the US, Jan 21 was the deadline for GH to be considered an illegal drug."
I'm sorry theveed but both of them (testosterone & GH) are hormones.
GH are used for patient with dwarfism while the testosterone are used for people who have AIDS, HIV, testosterone deficiency, family planning and some of them with 3rd degree burns. And for what I know is that they have different side effects if you abuse use of both drugs.
Note that GH is different from PH... PH is very close to steroids and should be avoided, the most popular is Andro based PH.
GH naman is more shady, things like Animal Stak are considered GH but they're more PH... ZMA vitamin stack is considered GH but is perfectly safe. ZMA won't shrink your balls, GH like A.S. will...
I suggest you consult IronHead if you're seriously considering and heed his advice.
I'd say no if you haven't even reached your natural potential yet, going for the shortcut approach will almost always have a negative long-term effect.
Note that GH is different from PH... PH is very close to steroids and should be avoided, the most popular is Andro based PH.
GH naman is more shady, things like Animal Stak are considered GH but they're more PH... ZMA vitamin stack is considered GH but is perfectly safe. ZMA won't shrink your balls, GH like A.S. will...
I suggest you consult IronHead if you're seriously considering and heed his advice.
I'd say no if you haven't even reached your natural potential yet, going for the shortcut approach will almost always have a negative long-term effect."
may kilala kasi ako nag-GHMAX siya galing HO... lumaki siya pero kasi advance body builder na yun... pero parang ayaw ko maniwala na walang side-effects kasi impossible, at nakakaliit kasi yun eh... kung ganun, dibale na lang...
quote: Originally posted by: theveed "Testicle shrinkage will be the last issue that I'll be worried about, liver failure and heart problems will top my list... "
yun ang malupit... heart and liver problem... may history pa naman sa family ng liver problem tapos nagkaproblema pa ako sa heart dati dahil sa over-caffeine before
My fears in using supplements (except whey) are due to these reasons(possible side effects).Ingat tayo diyan.Lumaki nga ang katawan,iiksi naman ang buhay.What a waste.