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Originally posted by: jadrobe
"what's afaik???? is it, As Far As I Know?

ah so pwde pala pagsabayin...sabi kasi ni mr. van wilder d daw effective pag sabay kasi mas mauuna daw absorb yung whey kesa sa creatine eh ang philosophy daw kaya dapat mauna crea para nutrient retention so pag pasok ng whey, matagal daw sa katawan kahit gaano kabilis absorb...is this correct philosophy?"

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AFAIK: yes you got that right.

Sorry Pao, but that's silly. Creatine is INSTANTLY absorbed by the bloodstream and breaks down the moment it mixes with any water source. Hence the preference of creatine being ingested as pure as possible (also the reason why creatine serums are a bunch of bull) since broken down creatine results to creatinine, which is almost useless for our muscles.

No matter how you view it, protein will still take time to break down and will ALWAYS take longer than creatine to get absorbed. Creatine enters the bloodstream quite rapidly, protein still needs to be broken down into aminos by the liver to be absorbed by the muscle. In addition, protein requires insulin (glycogen) to transport it to the bloodstream, creatine does not.

Once something is absorbed, it's absorbed. Unless the structure of the protein (or whatever it is) is complex, it'll be broken down and absorbed rather quickly REGARDLESS of what you take beforehand or after that protein. In other words, even if you mix both whey protein and casein protein together in one shaker bottle, the casein protein will take longer to break down than whey due to its molecular structure, it could care less if whey got into the system first or it (casein) din.